CHANTS & RANTS

Join Paul Rose at 1 PM Pacific/4PM Eastern for a pilgrimage AMA.

Welcome to another episode of Chants and Rants, a sister channel of Sing the Hours (singthehours.org). Paul interviews the remarkable Fr. Corwin Low, OP about his life in Silicon Valley and his conversion to the Catholic faith through the beauty of Gregorian chant. Fr. Corwin is a mendicant friar, which means he relies entirely on outside support for his preaching ministry. Give to Fr. Corwin's mission here: https://give.opwest.org/frcorwin Read about Fr. Corwin's work here: https://www.ncregister.com/interview/dominican-father-corwin-low?amp 00:00 Chants and Rants Presents: an interview with Fr. Corwin 04:15 How did you get "here," Fr. Corwin? 04:56 Faith, Education, and Early Work 06:45 Mental Health in the Coding World 07:10 Fr. Corwin's Early Work Life, cont.: Paul Allen's Houses and Yachts. 08:49 Fr. Corwin put Microsoft on the internet. 09:22 All Dollas, No Cheer 09:35 Catholic Attorney Turns Up 10:09 "It's my daily reminder of Who's in charge." 11:27 Invitation to Rome 11:40 The Duomo in Milan 12:58 Liberal Arts Education 13:41 Attracted to Cathedrals 13:04 Pilgrim vs. Tourist 13:35 Santa Sabina 15:01 Mesmerized by Lauds 16:04 Friar Breakfast 17:44 An Apartment on the Aventine 18:03 Chanting with Friars 18:18 Dominican Chanting Not Very Good 18:26 Vespers with the Benedictines 18:49 Learning without instruction 19:51 Daily Office 20:55 Duomo in Florence 22:54 Why Choose the Dominicans? 23:45 Fr.'s Vatican Job 24:18 Charlie is a second class relic 24:50 Dominicans so relatable 25:15 Not Catholic Yet 25:42 Baptized souls thirst for chant 29:03 Ave Verum Corpus 30:35 Confirmation Sponsor 31:02 Fr.'s "Journey Home" story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIyXb0kjrFM 32:04 Fr.'s Catholic Timeline 32:56 Chanting the Canon 33:27 When do you have to sell all your stuff? 34:54 Tell us about religious orders. 36:24 Tell us about the cape. 37:26 Cape Story on the Camino 39:00 Who's your boss? 39:47 What do brothers do? 40:06 Chanting the Hours and the Mass 41:27 Scandal 42:58 Tell us about the habit 46:44 Chanting the Hours 47:23 Reading the Hours 48:22 You have this remarkable priest's attention and you're asking him about footwear??? 49:00 Back to the hierarchy of obedience. 50:05 Are all Dominicans real? 51:43 Do you know most Dominicans? Emphatically not. 52:06 Do you watch movies? 52:13 Any reforms after Vatican II? 52:46 Dominican and Roman Rites 54:42 St. Dominic's Feast Day 55:20 Albert the Great 55:55 Chant Discussion and Summary 58:20 Fr. Corwin's mission now is to evangelize in big tech.

Paul and his sister Nina chant "Regina Caeli" and the "Magnificat" in the Church of Saint Lucia, Alberobello, Puglia, Italia. Support this work today www.singthehours.org/support 00:00 Regina Caeli 01:14 Magnificat

Paul is joined by Fr. Edmund as he visits the Norbertines at St. Michael's Abbey in Silverado, California. Learn a little about the Norbertines, their music, and their way of life. To stay up to date with the Norbertines and to learn more about sacred music at St. Michael's Abbey, click here: https://theabbotscircle.com/lp/gs/discover-yt Some of our favorite videos from St. Michael's Abbey: - The altar lit up on Michaelmas: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p03GlqOdfa8 - Fr. Edmund conducting : "Miserere Mei." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlzTmXqdNJk "Crux Fidelis." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNz-lTKFnC4&list=PLOGRezWEdM62tIkQwfnDlvWvm1DKAMO1T - Fr. Edmund on the transforming beauty of sacred music: https://youtube.com/shorts/oBaQ8AObLAY?feature=shared 00:00 Welcome to Chants and Rants. We're with Fr. Edmund and the Norbertines! 00:35 Who are the Norbertines? 00:58 The Canons Regular of Prémontré 01:19 Canon means "list" in Latin! Learn something new every day. 01:40 Fr. Edmund has made a vow of stability to this place. 02:14 Why do Norbertines wear white? 03:09 Do Norbertines pre-date Dominicans? 03:16 Does St. Michael's Abbey have lot of vocations? As monks or priests? 04:31 What makes St. Michael's so spiritually special? 06:08 St. Michael's has a beautiful image of the Assumption. 06:20 Norbertines as refugees from revolutions and communism. 07:05 The Norbertine Charism 08:29 Fr. Edmund's role at St. Michael's Abbey 09:24 Which of your liturgies are open to the public? 11:10 When do you do Lauds? 11:30 Do you ever combine an office with Mass? 12:16 What kind of music do you sing at St. Michael's Abbey? 12:40 The Norbertines have their own chant!?! 13:31 Fr. Edmund Chants an Example 14:00 Roman vs. Norbertine Salve Regina 14:17 Musicology of the California Missions 16:08 Paul's Mission Musicology Dream 17:26 Fr. Edmund is also the Guest Master at St. Michael's Abbey 18:10 St. Michael's Abbey is world renowned, but only 3 years old! 18:47 St. Michael's transcends the liturgy wars. 19:26 How does St. Michael's avoid the liturgy wars? 20:29 Fr. Edmund attended the TLM for a while in college. 21:17 The Abbey doesn't do the Latin Mass. But they do have Latin IN the Mass. 21:55 What the missal says about Gregorian Chant. 22:11 St. Michael's Abbey loves Sacrosanctum Concilium. 22:46 The priests at St. Michael's have all kinds of work. 23:12 Do you ever do "low" Masses at St. Michael's? 24:18 Do you sing the readings at Mass? 24:26 What solemnity is uniquely important to St. Michael's? 24:39 A Cosmic Event every Sept. 29 at 5:15 pm to celebrate Michaelmas 25:42 St. Norbert's Day 26:12 The Norbertines make their own vestments and icons. 26:33 Are there voice tryouts to join the Norbertines? 27:12 Fr. Edmund co-teaches the chant class to the novices. 27:57 Do people improve after entering? 28:17 Fr. Edmund visited Solesmes. 29:18 What is Fr. Edmund's favorite chant? 30:21 Fr. Edmund and Paul sing Veni Creator Spiritus. 31:04 Thank you for chatting Fr. Edmund. Check out St. Michael's Abbey on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook 31:57 Final Note: Does Fr. Edmund have any advice for laity who want to implement the Liturgy of the Hours at their parish? 33:48 St. Cecilia and St. Dunstan, pray for us! 34:34 So start in your home. 34:46 Check out St. Michael's Abbey!

Listen to Paul and Giorgio take (an at-times illicit) chanting tour of churches in the Old Country. Purchase Giorgio's Chant Course Here (affiliate link benefits Sing the Hours) - Use SINGTHEHOURS2024 at checkout for $25 off. https://chantforchildren.podia.com/chant-for-children/9qd53 Learn what churches they got kicked out of as they consider donkeys in the Parma Cathedral, Reverb in the Pantheon, Magic Sandstone in Pazzi Chapel (ripped off by Steve Jobs for his Apple Stores), Archaeomusicology, and the time Paul battled a boom-box in the sanctuary from the rafters of the church. 00:00 Paul is joined by his good friend Giorgio of Floriani and Chant for Children 00:30 Let's talk about the beard. 00:52 How do Paul and Giorgio know each other? 01:09 Uh oh. Giorgio's family's farm has squatters. 01:21 Apparently they deserve it. 01:36 Let's talk about the home country and chant in the church. 02:01 Paul and Giorgio like to sing in sacred spaces, sometimes with permission. 02:41 Kicked Out Part One: Giorgio and the Parma Baptistry 02:49 Interrupting Short of Floriani chanting in Parma Without Permission. 03:40 Giorgio got in trouble with security. 04:30 Paul is shocked because usually the Parma cathedral sounds like a donkey-and-baboon party. Couldn't one little group chant something beautiful for a change? 04:50 Paul describes the Parma cathedral. 05:10 At least the Parma cathedral had people. It's a central meeting place for the community. 05:52 The 1962 missal. "Are we going there?" Yes. There are no postures in there for laity. 06:36 Giorgio likes the idea of people having their own popular devotion in the Mass. Mostly because he hates pews. They ruin the sound. 06:47 Paul concurs. Remove the pews. 07:08 Ever been to St. Paul's Outside the Walls? No chairs. 07:26 Parma and St. Paul's Outside the Walls are good reminders that there used to be no chairs. 07:48 Pre-Pew 07:58 The dangers of historical imagination. 08:10 A Deduction of Donkeys. 08:42 Let's talk about another church. San Nicola. 08:58 Did Giorgio chant without permission there? 09:19 Sound Hugs 09:38 Why do we like good reverb in churches? 09:59 Bari Cathedral - Where St. Nicholas is buried. He ain't at no North Pole. 10:33 Paul believes St. Nick is in a superposition of states. 10:46 St. Nicholas' bones are a constant miracle. 11:00 Bari Cathedral is ground zero for ecumenism - Active Orthodoxy in the Bari Cathedral Crypt. 11:24 Not Kicked Out at the Pantheon. 11:57 Paul's Hotel Rec in Rome - Albergo del Senato - overlooks the Pantheon. https://www.albergodelsenato.it/ 12:10 Let's talk about the sound in the Pantheon - Paul's favorite building in Rome. 12:34 You need to sing in the Pazzi Chapel, Firenze (Florence). 13:30 Paul sings the Magnificat in the Pazzi Chapel. 13:56 Steve Jobs ripped off this chapel's accoustics. 14:47 What the streets of Florence are made of. 15:21 Apple Stores source their floors from Tuscan sandstone. 15:48 Giorgio is taking his children's schola there! 16:05 Pazzi Chapel's reverb is like the swirling pumpkin coach and Cinderella dress of sound. 17:04 Salve Regina in a Vatican side chapel 17:45 The Amalfi Coast 18:10 Not Kicked Out of the Positano Basilica - The sacristan there wanted them to chant. 18:24 Hear from the sacristan herself. "You made a miracle in the church." 19:12 Have you ever been to Como? Bellagio? St. Mark's? 19:37 Do you chant all in Latin? 20:08 The tourists love when we chant without permission. 20:42 What made King David great? 21:45 Archaeomusicology 22:45 Giorgio please sing in Pazzi Chapel with your choir (St. Florian's Choristers). 23:00 Paul sings in Italian or Latin when he's singing without permission in Italy. 23:27 A Church for Martyrs on an Island in Rome. 24:28 Giorgio wishes there were more opportunities to hear the Divine Office. We'll just leave this here for him: youtube.com/singthehours 24:46 How can we encourage people to sing the Liturgy of the Hours? And why should we? 26:02 Giorgio, tell us about your upcoming European trip. 26:36 Giorgio wants to help children chant again. 27:05 Kicked Out For Chanting Part 2: Paul in the Church Rafters vs. a Boom Box in the Sanctuary. 29:46 A random place Giorgio chanted: Istanbul in the Basilica Cisterns. 30:24 Paul and Giorgio chant the Kyrie from Mass 9 31:44 The Sacramental Nature of Music 33:14 Paul, Tolkien, and the Heavenly Sound 34:18 Giorgio and the Medieval Mind 35:19 Does Paul ever freestyle chant? 36:02 Freestyle something for us Giorgio ready go. 36:51 Freestyle should still follow the rules of chant. 38:59 Giorgio's a trad. Or is he? 39:17 Paul's trip to Italy in August 40:59 Giorgio's trip to Italy in August 42:29 Paul loves intergenerational travel. Our culture is dumb not to do it. 45:18 Outro

In the last video, Paul and Nina mentioned that the Gradaule Simplex is not a half-measure but a full legitimate part of the music tradition of the Roman Rite. In this video they break down the Graduale Simplex and show us what it would be like to sing an antiphon from the Graduale Simplex in Mass. 00:00 Glory Be 00:11 Introduction with Paul and his sister Nina 00:25 Last episode about Nina's schola. See that here: https://youtu.be/_LeEY6Upr54 00:38 The Graduale Simplex is not a half-measure. Let's talk about it. 01:11 Nina explains the basic structure of the Graduale Simplex 01:56 There are 8 Complete Masses for ordinary time, all in Latin. 02:07 By Flowing Waters - an unofficial attempt to put the Graduale Simplex in English You can read more about that here: https://www.ccwatershed.org/2014/08/13/important-resources-liturgical-reform-6-7/ 03:07 Learn how to chant and teach some of these antiphons. 03:48 When the Graduale Simplex was promulgated and reissued 04:53 What's in the Graduale Simplex? - overview 05:12 This is the first time the official responsorial Psalms have been set. 05:30 This is where the "triple alleluia" comes in! 06:19 Nina, show us what one of these sounds like. 06:28 The free pdfs for these chants are online! Check out https://gregobase.selapa.net/ . You can also find them here: https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/8894/the-choral-graduale-simplex-english-harmonized-satb-plainsong/p1 07:26 How Nina helps her schola read. Step 1: Find "Do" 08:14 The little bracket on the left shows you where to find "Do." 08:56 Paul demonstrates the line of chant. 09:03 The fun thing is is that "Do" can be any note. 09:22 Sing the line with solfege first. Then add the lyrics. 10:03 There is a simple way to harmonize these antiphons. 11:20 Paul and Nina sing the offertorio chant for us. 11:49 How you might treat this antiphon when singing it in Mass. 12:08 Difference between a responsorial Psalm and antiphons. 12:28 The Psalm tones attached to these antiphons are the same as the tones in the Liturgy of the Hours. 13:02 So if you listen to Sing the Hours, you will recognize these antiphon tones. 13:41 Because there are only 8 selections in the Graduale Simplex, these tones are easy for a congregation to acquire. 14:13 On the front of the book, it says for use in small churches. 14:53 How to find the English settings for these chants. 15:08 Abbey Psalms and Canticles - a good source for English settings. 16:02 The Graduale Simplex is steeped in the Psalms. 16:49 But really, how do you find the English? 17:45 Careful, the Psalm numbering is different! 18:03 Chanting the Psalm in English 18:37 What's special about these antiphons is they're great for daily Mass. 19:22 It's great for a Sunday Mass or daily Mass! 19:56 Offertory antiphon is meant to be a preparation for the Eucharist. 20:30 Nina's favorite 21:29 Careful! The "bracket" showing you where "Do" is no longer does that for this one!" 21:36 "Fa" clef. Don't get scared now. 22:21 Communion Chant Example 22:39 Couple of notes on this chant. 22:46 Why Paul joins in after the star. What is the star? WHY is the star? 23:21 A legitimate question. 23:50 Questions soaked in humility. 24:43 How Nina implements harmony for a chant like this. 26:06 Paul drops the bass for this chant. 26:42 This chant in the Eastern Way for reverb. 27:49 Paul's not bragging, but he just set this to English lickety-split. 28:43 Communion chant set to English. 29:49 Psalm 13v12 in English 31:33 Isn't it great to be Catholic? 31:41 Paul goes on a convert rant. 33:11 Nina encourages you to get started. 33:33 Paul and Nina will show you one more chant. A favorite of Paul's. 33:47 Offertorio: "Beati omnes qui timent Dominum" 35:56 Why incense? Why fear? Let's check the Old Testament. 36:42 Nina: "These antiphons are connected to that reverence and awe." 37:00 One more antiphon from the Graduale Simplex! 37:30 Offertory Antiphon: Illumina, From Ordinary Time Mass 5, Mode 8 39:17 Same chant, but in English now. If this doesn't make you weep I don't know what will. 41:01 Same chant, in English, new harmony 41:12 Paul breaks down the verses for us. 41:39 Nina: "What good catechesis is that?" Paul: *loses it* 41:48 Even traditional hymns can't beat this, because these Psalms are divinely inspired. 44:20 Thanks for watching! Now go chant some Psalms.

Paul interviews his sister Nina about how she got into Gregorian chant and how her schola is doing. You may have heard her on our sister podcast, Sing the Hours. 00:00 Welcome to Chants and Rants with Paul and Nina Rose 00:10 Nina is Paul's little sister. 00:32 Nina is short for Antonina, a beautiful Italian name. 00:49 How has Nina's schola been going? 01:14 How did Nina first become a cantor? 02:43 How did the church first find out Nina could sing? 04:15 How did they know Nina could sing? 04:39 Two years ago, Nina knew nothing about chanting a Mass. 05:06 Nina was plugged into a Novus Ordo Mass already incorporating traditional chant. 05:17 How much do our listeners know about the musical recommendations for the Mass? 05:54 What tools did Nina use to learn to familiarize herself with the music expected at this Mass? 7:40 Nina's first rehearsal was a trainwreck, but now she can sight read chant. 07:56 How months did it take before Nina felt at ease with chant? 09:11 When did Nina first get the idea to start a schola? 09:25 A Brief Summary of Antiphons and Their Appropriate Use 10:25 Here's an idea of what they sound like. 11:02 Where did Nina first get the idea to expand her work into a schola? 11:45 The idea to start a schola came gradually. It began with a Christmas Mass. 12:21 The following year, another Christmas Mass. 12:52 "Man is not meant to chant alone." Write that down. 13:28 Nina asked her spiritual director/pastor is they could start a schola. 14:20 Nina's spiritual director said, "Wait." 14:43 How many people were in the schola at the first Mass? 15:20 What is the musical ability of Nina's schola like? Most were almost absolute beginners. 17:08 How has chant been received by the average schola member? 20:46 It's about choosing eternal music. 21:02 What Vatican II says about sacred music. 21:34 Sacred music is transcendent and can speak to all ages. 22:05 It's a shame that our music is not more uniform across parishes. 23:15 When we compartmentalize Masses to appeal to different demographics, the faith is individualized in a harmful way. 24:10 The antidote to tribalism is the transcendent, universal Mass. 24:27 There is an unfortunate modern emphasis on the liturgy serving the people when the liturgy is meant to help people serve God. 25:20 Chant is literally and metaphysically timeless. 25:26 How does Nina help her schola sing together when there's no rhythm to chant, especially when so many are beginners? 27:31 In chant, each neum receives one beat. 27:49 Chant relies on the breath.

Paul and Fr. Nate discuss the importance of beauty found in the original Latin. Everything excellent takes work and this is no exception. Watch Part 1 Here: https://youtu.be/6q75mWBvApA Watch Part 2 Here: https://youtu.be/Q9wiDgUuA8w 00:00 Antiphons in the Liturgy of the Hours Explained 00:32 Solesmes (pronounced "soh LEM") is still compiling antiphons. 00:41 What is Solesmes? 01:18 The Antiphonale Romanum 01:59 The official texts are only in Latin right now, which is a good argument to use the Latin. 02:25 Paul transcribes the original music for the English on Sing the Hours. 03:04 The challenge of using the English over the Latin 03:22 The problem of diphthongs. 03:44 Sarcasm Cameo 03:57 Why we sometimes retain the Latin for the antiphons in Sing the Hours. 04:20 The Catechism and Vatican II on the importance of sacred music. 04:36 You get to hear and join in on some of the most beautiful pieces every composed. 05:02 If done well, Latin allows you to enter into the Liturgy in a new way. 05:26 Why Paul thinks about Zacchaeus a lot. 06:00 The extra effort it takes to understand the Latin can turn you into a seeker. This is good. 07:11 Shout out to Pope Francis - please bring back the Latin! 08:35 As an international podcast, Sing the Hours uses Latin to reach the global Church. 09:35 We're just following what the Bishops say about international gatherings. 09:42 How Paul uses English and Latin. 09:57 Vespers in Latin at our Sacred Heart taco party. Latin was very well received. 10:57 An Encounter with Beauty 11:24 Several popes have discussed how the beauty of the Liturgy converts people. 11:58 Anything worth doing is not easy. All excellent things take effort. 12:39 You can be struck by the love of God by hearing exultant chant. 13:01 Paul encourages us to put in the effort to learn Latin. The long road is the good road. 13:26 Fr. Nathaniel on the two ends of liturgy: 1. To praise God. 2. To sanctify the people. 14:13 On a final note - The Liturgy of the Hours is for evangelization. 15:28 We need to rediscover beauty in the New Evangelization 15:59 Send in your questions!

Paul and Fr. Nate continue to discuss the use of Latin in the Liturgy. See Part 1 Here: https://youtu.be/6q75mWBvApA 00:00 Into the deep end with Latin. 1:00 Every translation is an interpretation. 1:17 There's nothing inherently sacred about Latin 01:34 Did the Blood of Christ sanctify three languages on the Cross? 01:55 A good Mass maintains those three languages. 02:26 A totally unhelpful but funny story. 03:02 An exactly relevant story back. 03:39 "Does it become less meaningful if you don't know what you're saying?" 04:26 Seminary education used to be done in Latin. 04:29 Pope Saint John XXIII mandated in the 1960s that seminary should be done in Latin. But that didn't stick. 04:54 In the early church, Latin was the vernacular (the original languages being Greek and Hebrew). 05:26 Fr. Nathaniel is trying to make "thou" happen. It's not going to happen. 05:34 St. Paul on prophesying in tongues. 06:01 St. John Chrysostom's thoughts on tongues. 07:00 Sacrosanctum Concilium - the purpose of sacred music. 07:20 "The glory of God and the sanctification of the faithful." 07:43 How do we apply the principle of interpretation to the tension of still using Latin in the liturgy? 08:25 Habituation to a mode of speaking allows it to become more natural. 09:02 The Ordinary of the Mass 09:17 There can be parts of the Mass done in the vernacular in order to teach, but should keep the Mass in Latin, especially those things that are standardized (Sanctus, Agnus Dei, Mortem Tuum, etc.). 09:31 Latin in the context of the United States 09:45 The USCCB's pastoral letter "Sing to the Lord" 2007 says in multicultural gatherings, Latin should be used in the Liturgy. 10:56 Paul agrees with the bishops. 11:26 Latin is a unifying language in a multicultural circumstance. 11:44 Vatican II on the Liturgy of the Hours is even more committed to the Latin. 12:28 The general principle for the Liturgy of the Hours was to retain the Latin. 13:37 Why Latin for Sing the Hours? The Ordinary, the Hymnody, and the Psalmody 13:54 The Ordinary is the part of Lauds and Vespers that does not change. 14:58 The Hymnody - the tunes were meant for the Latin language 16:01 The Psalmody - the Psalms change day-by-day: a good argument to keep the vernacular. 16:29 The Antiphonary?? See Part III!!!